Curse

moko · Apr 09, 2007, 11:23 PM // 23:23

HE OBVIOUSLY USES THROW DIRT AS COVER CONDITION FOR DAZED DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

yeah i agree, the build is a failure. :/ also bha makes you suck at interrupting so..

Program pretty much pointed out the mistakes.

Sofa King · Apr 09, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

You know, you spent all this time disecting my post, did you even bother to spend even a few minutes trying it out in random arenas? I bet not.

It is sad that people such as yourself focus so intently on finding the negative that you will create it yourself so you can have something to bring attention to.

This isn't your high school debate class and I'm not interested in wasting trading inane barbs with you. I posted the interrupt build that works for me so that anyone interested could try it and use it if they like. If you think it isn't up to your standards, I really don't care. If you don't like it, don't use it. There may be some on this forum who do and might actually use it, or a variation there of, to some success.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 09, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

theres also a thing called breaking points in expertise.... maybe you should look them up -.-

its like the sins crit strikes

moko · Apr 09, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

You know, you spent all this time disecting my post, did you even bother to spend even a few minutes trying it out in random arenas? I bet not.

It is sad that people such as yourself focus so intently on finding the negative that you will create it yourself so you can have something to bring attention to.

This isn't your high school debate class and I'm not interested in wasting trading inane barbs with you. I posted the interrupt build that works for me so that anyone interested could try it and use it if they like. If you think it isn't up to your standards, I really don't care. If you don't like it, don't use it. There may be some on this forum who do and might actually use it, or a variation there of, to some success.

Expertise

try reading it.

secondly, seeing how i agree with Program in every single point, and seeing how i have 533 glad points, im sure we both know what works better - the things he suggested or the crap you pulled together.

you NEED apply poison (or barbed arrows, w/e), else dazed can be removed WAY too easily.

natural stride is superior to lightning reflexes and whirling defense.

mending touch is useful to keep yourself clean off conditions, which is actually helpful when you intend on hitting.

so have YOU actually tried the changes he suggested? i bet not.

Ninja Spectre · Apr 09, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

I want to have programs ranger babies..program has pointed out everything wrong with that build....and sofa o0 ehhh ok

Program Ftw · Apr 09, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

You know, you spent all this time disecting my post, did you even bother to spend even a few minutes trying it out in random arenas? I bet not.

It is sad that people such as yourself focus so intently on finding the negative that you will create it yourself so you can have something to bring attention to.

This isn't your high school debate class and I'm not interested in wasting trading inane barbs with you. I posted the interrupt build that works for me so that anyone interested could try it and use it if they like. If you think it isn't up to your standards, I really don't care. If you don't like it, don't use it. There may be some on this forum who do and might actually use it, or a variation there of, to some success.

No, you called me an idiot, for pointing out the *obvious* flaws with your build. Now you say I haven't tried it, I do not need to *try* it, it has OBVIOUS flaws, poor attribute spread, poor skill choice. It was not hard to "find something negative" because apart from 3 skills, the build *is* negative.

You still FAIL to *learn* even when I clearly pointed out your build was flawed, and how to improve it. It actually mildly upsets me that after 1.5 YEARS?! you're playing a build like that and REFUSING to accept advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Spectre

I want to have programs ranger babies..program has pointed out everything wrong with that build....and sofa o0 ehhh ok

A/S/L?? : D

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

eggs0wn · Apr 09, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

I don't think that guy will be posting anymore builds anytime soon...Program, you killed him.

Anyway BHA is fun for RA. Most casters don't even know what Dazed is. Sofa, just read up on expertise. And a cover condition is the same as a cover enchant...When the monk tries to remove the daze they will remove the poison/bleeding/whatever cover up you brought and that way they will still be dazed.

Program Ftw · Apr 10, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggs0wn

...Program, you killed him.

I don't want to kill him, I want him to learn his *obvious* mistakes.

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

Shendaar · Apr 10, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Guide on how to survive Sofa King's ranger build has a caster :
Step 1 : Sidestep to the left or right(you can also try running forward if you want to get creative) to dodge BHA.
Step 2 : Heal yourself once every 30 seconds to counter the insane damage output.
Step 3 : Repeat.

Ninja Spectre · Apr 10, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14

yeah dont kill him I want to find him in Arenas and wild blow all of his stances off, perhaps he will try get me while im dazed and using heal sig,

eggs0wn · Apr 10, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14

I didn't mean kill in that sense...You just, bah, whats the word? What you said was true but I think it could have been said in a nicer way. Doh, this is gunna lead to a mini flame, just nvm.

Edit: I just tried this build in RA:

[skill]Magebane Shot[/skill]
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
[skill]Savage Shot[/skill]
[skill]Concussion Shot[/skill] <---Don't/didn't like and didnt use much
[skill]Read the Wind[/skill]
[skill]Natural Stride[/skill]
[skill]Troll Unguent[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Flame bait for using Magebanes Shot but I just capped it a bit ago and wanted to make use of it. I won 5 straight. What should I change for Concussion?

Oh, and please don't tell me to switch out Magebanes Shot; I know there are better skills but I want to make use of this.

Program Ftw · Apr 10, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shendaar

Guide on how to survive Sofa King's ranger build has a caster :
Step 1 : Sidestep to the left or right(you can also try running forward if you want to get creative) to dodge BHA.
Step 2 : Heal yourself once every 30 seconds to counter the insane damage output.
Step 3 : Repeat.

Makes sense, for fun kite the letters of the alphabet! : D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Spectre

yeah dont kill him I want to find him in Arenas and wild blow all of his stances off, perhaps he will try get me while im dazed and using heal sig,

Silly fool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggs0wn

I didn't mean kill in that sense...You just, bah, whats the word? What you said was true but I think it could have been said in a nicer way. Doh, this is gunna lead to a mini flame, just nvm.

He made a comment about me, why should it be said in a nice tone?

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

Crazyvietguy · Apr 10, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Program is absolutely right, now im not going to claim to fame but I've played as an interrupter for a large portion of my PvP life. And Sofa's build would have gotten me killed.. a lot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

This isn't your high school debate class and I'm not interested in wasting trading inane barbs with you.

And.. I'm pretty sure you started the debate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King

you are an idiot

Perhaps you have short term memory loss? Or hate to admit it when you are wrong? Either way, you came out the loser in this thread.

eggs0wn · Apr 10, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Program Ftw

He made a comment about me, why should it be said in a nice tone?

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

Exactly, that is why I said you "killed" him.

Program Ftw · Apr 10, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggs0wn

Edit: I just tried this build in RA:

[skill]Magebane Shot[skill]
[skill]Distracting Shot[skill]
[skill]Savage Shot[skill]
[skill]Concussion Shot[skill] <---Don't/didn't like and didnt use much
[skill]Read the Wind[skill]
[skill]Natural Stride[skill]
[skill]Troll Ungent[skill]
[skill]Ressurection signet[skill]

Try something like this:

Pin Down/Screaming Shot
Magebane
Distracting
Natrual Stride
Mending Touch
Apply Poison
Troll Unguent
Resurrection Signet

The is no *need* to run that amount of interrupts with Magebane.

Magebane *can* be nasty, it's not versitile enough to be used outside RA, but *in* RA it is fun!

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

Marverick · Apr 10, 2007, 03:16 AM // 03:16

This seems to work well for interrupting in 4v4 Arenas.

Expertise 12+3+1
Beast Mastery 12+1

Expert's Dexterity {e}
Bestial Pounce
Distracting Shot
Throw Dirt
Call of Haste
Comfort Animal
Resurrection Signet
Charm Animal

Lock your pet onto a Monk and use Bestial Pounce on him once every few seconds to keep him under pressure; meanwhile cycle around and use Distracting Shot to interrupt crucial skills; it recharges in 2 seconds and disables a skill for 20 seconds.

Evilsod · Apr 10, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Program Ftw

Being comfortable with this build? lol. If you dazed a caster and the was no condition removal or block and they got spells off, I would be concerned; Really, I would. Also I find the idea that they would be stupid enough to not dodge the arc of BHA ludicrous.

Meh, if your talking about RA/TA BHA can still hit quite often. Even a 2 second spell (plus aftercast) is probably too long to avoid getting hit by BHA. Monks aren't the only spellcasters in this game. That said... even while *clearly* dodging this skill the last time i was in TA on Monk i still kept getting hit by the frigging thing.

Either way... if your sole aim is to interrupt monks your pretty much wasting a team slot. Any monk who ventures into TA will either suck that much you don't need to interrupt him or be carrying a heap of 1/4 cast skills.

Program Ftw · Apr 10, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26

1) Use a mouse to dodge.

2) It's possible to dodge BHA at point blank range.

Sofa King · Apr 11, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Hmmm, it seems that I've just run 30 in a row in RA/TA with a build that is complete crap. Along the way, there was more than one "........*&%&$ Ranger....." from the opponent and an all caps "OUR RANGER ROCKS" from a teammate. Too bad Mr. Program doesn't approve, it could have been a workable build.

Evilsod · Apr 11, 2007, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Program Ftw

1) Use a mouse to dodge.

2) It's possible to dodge BHA at point blank range.

Oh well thankyou... like i never knew that. That doesn't mean to say GW isn't full of stupid glitches when it comes to dodging things.

What do you want? A cookie? Any idiot can get far in RA if they get a couple of decent builds with them. Your build, isn't 1 of them. Besides if you have to use RA as an example of how good your build is its either bollocks or just won't work anywhere else due to restraints.